Meeting documents

Standards Committee
Thursday, 29th November, 2007

STANDARDS COMMITTEE

 

Minutes of the meeting held on 29 November 2007

 

PRESENT:

 

Dr Gwyneth Roberts (Chair)

 

Mr Jeffrey Cotterell,

Mr Gwynfor Jones,

Mrs Ceri Thomas (in respect of items 1 and 2 only);

 

 

 

IN ATTENDANCE:

 

Monitoring Officer (LB),

Solicitor to the Monitoring Officer (MJ),

Committee Officer (JMA).

 

 

 

APOLOGIES:

 

Dr John Popplewell

 

 

 

 

 

1

DECLARATION OF INTEREST

 

There was no declaration of interest from any Member or Officer in respect of any item of business.

 

2

MINUTES

 

The minutes of the meeting of the Standards Committee held on 5th July 2007 were submitted and signed as a correct record of the meeting. (Council Minutes 13.12.2007, pages 140 - 144)

 

3

CORRESPONDENCE - INFORMATION ONLY

 

At the request of the Council’s Managing Director, the outcome of complaints to the Public Services Ombudsman for Wales against County Councillor Elwyn Schofied were submitted for information only.  The Chair invited the Monitoring Officer to address the Committee regarding the factual background to the matter.

 

The Monitoring Officer confirmed that the item had been placed on the agenda at the request of the Council’s Managing Director and with the agreement of the Public Services Ombudsman and Unison. The item was presented for information only as it was not a statutory referral from the Ombudsman and therefore the Standards Committee has no power take any decision on the item.

 

The item referred to two complaints, each relating to a different matter, which were lodged with the Ombudsman, alleging that County Councillor Elwyn Schofield had breached the Code of Conduct for elected members.

 

The first allegation submitted to the Ombudsman was from the Monitoring Officer and was lodged on 31st August 2005 and related to an incident which had occurred on 3rd May 2005.

 

 

The second complaint was lodged with the Ombudsman by the Council’s former Managing Director, Mr Geraint Edwards, on 2nd September 2005 and related to an incident which had occurred on 10th August 2005.

 

 

 

The complaint lodged by the Managing Director had been reported in the press as relating to confidential documents which had been generated by the Council and which had been left in the Council’s lavatories. That information was incorrect and had been misreported. The material involved was a large quantity of leaflets, totalling approximately 179 pages in all, which made serious and unsubstantiated allegations against County Councillors. A bundle of those leaflets was deliberately deposited in each of the cubicles in one of the Council’s first floor lavatories.

 

 

 

This was obviously a deliberate action intended that the leaflets be disseminated in the Council building and perhaps wider.

 

 

 

Both the Monitoring Officer’s and the Council’s former Managing Director’s complaints were accepted by the Ombudsman and were investigated by an Investigator whom the Ombudsman had appointed from within his own office. Both matters were investigated comprehensively and the investigations were completed. In total, the investigations involved 20 Council employees who were interviewed and gave evidence.

 

 

 

Draft Reports were published by the Ombudsman to the relevant parties who were given an opportunity to comment. However, owing to his health, Councillor Schofield did not comment on the draft Reports and the Ombudsman therefore decided not to publish the final Reports and decided not to take any further action. The Ombudsman’s decisions were referred to in his letters of the 22nd March 2007 which were submitted to the Committee as part of the Agenda for the meeting.

 

 

 

Given that, in relation to both investigations, the Ombudsman concluded that the allegations were supported by evidence, which was largely confirmed by the investigations, the current Managing Director was concerned about the Ombudsman’s conclusion and requested the Ombudsman to put both reports “on hold” until Councillor Schofield  recovered his health. The Ombudsman, however, refused that request and Councillor Schofield returned to his duties as a Councillor on or about the 8th August 2007.

 

 

 

Unison, representing a number of the employees involved in the investigations, expressed concern about the well being of their members at the outset of the enquiries in 2005 and again, more recently, when they were informed that both Reports had been “shelved” and that Councillor Schofield had returned to Council duties without having to answer either of the cases against him despite the conclusion from the Ombudsman that both allegations were supported by evidence, largely confirmed by the investigations.

 

 

 

The Managing Director therefore wrote to the Ombudsman on the 22nd October 2007 (a copy of that letter was submitted as part of the Agenda for the meeting). The Managing Director raised the point that whilst he has a responsibility for the welfare of staff, he has no powers to deal with the conduct of Councillors and, instead, he has to rely upon the Ombudsman to undertake that role. As the Ombudsman, in this case, had decided not to exercise his powers, the Managing Director considered that the welfare of staff would be best served by putting as much information as legally possible about this matter into the public domain. The Managing Director suggested to the Ombudsman that an appropriate way of achieving this would be by way of an information item on the Agenda of the Standards Committee.

 

 

 

The Ombudsman had agreed to that proposal and subsequently the Managing Director wrote to all of the staff involved explaining that the item would appear on the Committee’s Agenda, albeit that the Standards Committee has no power take a decision in relation to the matter. Unison had also been closely involved in the process and was consulted in connection with the Managing Director’s letter to the Ombudsman and the subsequent letter to staff.

 

 

 

The Monitoring Officer concluded by stating that the Standards Committee would appreciate that the public disclosure allowed by the Ombudsman was quite limited and whilst she was happy to try and answer any factual questions which the Members may have, it may be necessary for the Committee to retire to private session to discuss the matter in more detail.  It also had to be pointed out that even in private session there was a limit to the information that we would be permitted to disclose even to the Standards Committee as there are statutory prohibitions on disclosure of evidence arising during the course of an investigation by the Ombudsman

 

 

 

The Chair asked the Standards Committee Members whether, having heard the Monitoring Officer’s report, they wished to retire to private session to discuss the matter in more detail. It was unanimously agreed that the Committee retire to private session.

 

 

 

On returning to public session, the Chair announced that the Committee had unanimously RESOLVED as follows:-

 

 

 

The fact that the Ombudsman has agreed to the release of the papers means that he has allowed the Committee to consider both the complaints.  

 

 

 

The Committee has unanimously expressed grave concerns that both complaints were seemingly abandoned prematurely.

 

 

 

For this reason, the Committee has resolved to write to the Welsh Assembly Government with a copy to the local Assembly Member, the local Member of Parliament and the Ombudsman's Auditor expressing the Committee's concerns.

 

 

 

The letter will also be released into the public domain.

 

 

 

The Committee feels that both decisions have undermined the longstanding objective of the Standards Committee on the Isle of Anglesey, to be fair, objective and reasonable in its decisions.

 

 

 

The Committee also feels that this has not been conducive to transparency and completely fails to maintain public confidence in the current system.

 

 

 

Prior to closing the meeting, the Chair referred to the fact that this would be the last meeting of the Standards Committee in its current form and that she wished to express her heartfelt thanks, on behalf of the Committee Members, to all the Council Staff who had served and assisted the Committee in such a professional manner, including of course, the Monitoring Officer and her Staff in the Legal Section, and not  forgetting the diligent Committee Officer, Jan Adams together with the staff of the Translation Section.

 

 

 

As Chairman, she wished to express her personal thanks to her fellow Members on the Committee for their contribution towards the Committee’s work and for the support she had been given over the years. She wished to reassure the residents of the Isle of Anglesey - and she was expressing this view having been a Member of the Committee for a period of nine years - that each and every Member of the Committee had taken their duties seriously and had considered each issue in a totally objective and conscientious manner. The Committee’s aim, at all times, had been to promote a strong and healthy democracy on the Island. She ended by wishing the new Standards Committee every success in all of its deliberations.

 

 

 

The Monitoring Officer responded by thanking the Chair and the Members of the Committee for their hard work and support. She said it may not have been the busiest of Committees but it had without doubt had its difficult and controversial times. She thanked them all for their diligence and commitment as a Committee and for the advice and support both she and Mr Meirion Jones, the Monitoring Officer’s Solicitor, had been given over the past three years.

 

 

 

She confirmed that the new Standards Committee will be ratified by the County Council on 13 December 2007. She ended by thanking the Committee for having set such a high standard for the new Committee to aspire to.

 

 

 

The Chair declared the Committee closed and thanked everyone for their attendance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DR GWYNETH ROBERTS

 

CHAIR